CARDRUNNERS

Aug 26, 08 23:56:06

outstanding brian. thank you for showing the class to own up to your actions. i personally root for your continued success.

d_smith77

Aug 27, 08 00:09:54

I understand how CR wouldn't want this to tarnish the sqeaky clean image they try to propagate, and it's obviously against the Full Tilt rules, but you're not alone. Never seemed to bother FT when Patrik had three different accounts prior to becoming a red pro, and I'm sure other red pros do the same.

You did wrong technically (and contractually), but there are plenty of worse things to do in online poker. You are not a God, and I don't think is reasonable for people to expect you to be without foibles.

Build a bridge and move on.

RZ_Smokey

Aug 27, 08 00:22:27

We all mistakes and I think that playing under a diff screenname isnt that much of a bigdeal.

I mean, just because you change name wont make anyone a winner player.

Even if a large number of players know your original screen name, and you play under a diff one, they should be able to adjust there play to your play- Not your screen name.

Get back to playing well brian and do your homework.

peace

streetfamep

Aug 27, 08 00:25:53

its ok, you are not the only person that has done this, and i dont think it even makes you look bad. not like you were cheating or anything. godspeed w/ plo, you can do it!

mastertrey436

Aug 27, 08 00:32:45

mad respect for this brian

brystmar

Aug 27, 08 00:59:01

this shows nothing but class...although the actions were clearly wrong, and the severity of it can be debated...i will remain a fan of your and look forward to seeing you crush the biggest games once again...best of luck

pgcannonball

Aug 27, 08 01:22:36

This is one of the reasons that I like CR. It's hard to be a poker player online. I want to change my screen name so bad sometimes. There are 100 SnG's that I played as a losing player. There are people who've seen me donk off money and assume I'm bad and play with me because of it. And this is at tiny-tiny stakes. Hell sometimes I want a separate account just so my girl won't know how much \$\$ is in my account on Stars. You live under a microscope. People post Hand Histories about hands you play that they watched. That's insane pressure. The pressure on you to win is enormous, more so when you factor in CR. I understand completely why you did what you did. You're teaching all the people at CR and 2+2 about the importance of integrity in poker. Some already know, some will hate on you anyway, and some (read aisflat439) will appreciate the fact that you man up. That's a bigger a lesson as learning when to float with overs in position.

aisflat439

Aug 27, 08 01:24:46

As for the 25G's i thnk it would cool for you to give it to somthing that helps animals or the environment cuz kids and foreigners get all the love.

C.R.E.A.M

Aug 27, 08 01:37:34

LOLZ! Break the rules make hundreds of thousands of dollars and then get caught and donate 25k. The boys at Enron would be proud Brian.

BigBadDevil

Aug 27, 08 02:56:39

I think I understand both sides and frankly, I mostly agree with both sides. Because of that, I don't really have an opinion one way or the other on the subject... Nevertheless, I appreciate you on your straightforwardness and honesty with the members here and what sounds like the poker community. Part of being a leader is owning up to the negatives when under your responsibility and I commend you on that.

Waterpilot

Aug 27, 08 03:08:23

not that big a deal. patrik had like 3 sns and david benyamine had 2, maybe more. I'm sure it violated your contract with ftp, and that is for them to deal with, but other than that it really isn't a big deal. good of you to own up to what you did brian.

dtat0529

Aug 27, 08 03:35:49

Thanks for clearing this up Brian.

I LOVED your last 2 10/20 CR videos, so just keep up the good work :) I'm sure your I like to move it series will be awesome aswell.

Also GL on your PLO quest to the top. I'm sure you can do it.

ECart

Aug 27, 08 03:59:31

You da man! Dude Please update your blog as much as you can during your climb back to the the nosebleeds. Oh, I suggest cashing out some along the way too. Trust me, you won't regret cashing out but will regret not cashing out some here and there..

cpar1

Aug 27, 08 04:16:46

I suspect SamH got banned from CR for multiacounting :-))

FatalBazooka

Aug 27, 08 04:53:28

MAXIMUM RESPECT Brian!

This must have been very hard. I appreciate your honesty and am mightily impressed by your apology.

Actually you were the reason I joined CR back then in 2007. I'm still very happy about this.

Keep going. You are the man!

LuckyJoe

Aug 27, 08 04:56:40

Hey brian, i lack the understanding of why it is unethical for you to play under a different screen name? Anonymity is certainly important - why are you not allowed to? (Ok - if you violate contracts with Full Tilt its another matter...)

Anyways, good luck for you - you are always an inspiration for me!

The_Hutze

Aug 27, 08 05:47:00

This isn't a huge deal imo, there were various reasons for you to create other accounts, and unless you're somehoe using 2 accounts at once on 1 site i think "multi accounting" is over rated anyhow, gl

carrotallan

Aug 27, 08 06:08:33

You deserve a great deal of respect for this 'confession' Brian, tho i dont think it is as big a deal as people will undoubtedly make out.

I look forward to seeing u get back to 200-400 plo in the near future, and more quality vids from u too.

chambers10

Aug 27, 08 07:00:45

who put the squeeze on you? deny till you die

perunjd

Aug 27, 08 08:07:31

Is my full tilt account considered a charity?

DPikes

Aug 27, 08 08:45:30

Im paying you guys to try and become a a better player so that I can play in the games that you were fleecing. 25K is about 1 buy in for some of the games you were playing. Months of playing under those names, and you think this makes it right? The only reason this all came to light was because you were exposed on 2+2 - its not like you came clean because of the guilt you fealt - you got caught - and thats why you stopped....and now its damage control time.

eddieob

Aug 27, 08 09:15:42

It's actions like these that help define a man and make them a better person. Always be true to yourself and remember that no one is perfect.

-lee

Przytula

Aug 27, 08 09:58:28

ZeeJustin vs. Brian hu for rolls and the ability to return to stars!!!

(i know what Justin did is not the same, hold back the flaming)

Kefkas

Aug 27, 08 10:12:55

Why are people congratulating him? Online poker gets enough heat as it is and Brian Townsend, one of if not the most recognizable faces in the game is disrespecting the rules. Okay so fine he owned up, thats no reason to be proud. I thought at card runners lead pro and a full tilt red name you were supposed to conduct yourself professionally?
I've had a lot of respect for you and I remember reading a post on 2p2 a couple of months ago about samh bitching about Stellarnebula being Brian Townsend and i was like whatever he's Brian Townsend he is not that stupid.
I know this seems harsh but you're the most high profile player on the interwebs so if you can't serve as an example of integrity I'm not happy.

red0nk

Aug 27, 08 10:22:28

Wow 25K donations, I bet that is something big compared to what you made by CHEATING and using a different nickname. You should at least five that money to people that you cheated on.

Gorgi24

Aug 27, 08 10:55:27

Im paying you guys to try and become a a better player so that I can play in the games that you were fleecing. 25K is about 1 buy in for some of the games you were playing. Months of playing under those names, and you think this makes it right? The only reason this all came to light was because you were exposed on 2+2 - its not like you came clean because of the guilt you fealt - you got caught - and thats why you stopped....and now its damage control time

rookie

Aug 27, 08 10:57:46

I liked Eddies comment so I put it there again.

rookie

Aug 27, 08 11:20:51

ehrrm, i remember a blogpost a long time a go where brian actually said he was gonna be playing under several different nicks for a time when he was playing his hu challenge i believe. Why didnt anyone react then.
And calling it cheating??? come on, its not like he can see anyones holecards or anything, still the same game except people dunno who he is. And it only takes like 20 minutes of play to understand that ur playing vs a good player anyways.
Kudos for making it very clear what uve done brian, but i think people overreact a bit. Im guessing a ton of players have done the same thing before

kaiser1985

Aug 27, 08 11:54:05

Lol, Brian dont worry. Who cares about you wanting to be out of the spotlight for once?

Not like a million others like PA, durrr and so on havent done this before. Hypocrisy rules the world!

Good luck in the future!

Feigen

Aug 27, 08 12:38:58

We all make mistakes. Some, several of which have commented to this blog, act as though they have not and would rather spew venom at others than consider their issues. People like you, whatever the catalyst, are willing to accept responsibility and apologize. I applaud you and am proud to say that I work for a company fronted by Brian Townsend.

-Jeff

jeff218

Aug 27, 08 13:16:04

This falls in a very grey area.
How about 1 person playing and other(s) helping in the background? during tourneys and/or cash games. This is cheating!! playing under diff. accnt names is not a big deal. In high stakes games I don't think it takes long for others to find out if they are playing a good player or not. It is not like Brian has is own unique style that people can't play against if they don't know its him.
To me it is an ethical issue. Lee and Brian have discussed it and think it is unethical. While many others think it is ok to play under diff. accounts, have other people help while playing.
While the many online poker issues continue, I DO NOT think this is cheating.
BTW - I think BT is down for the year anyway? so he was using diff names and loosing, I don't see the advantage

sand.n.surf

Aug 27, 08 13:53:57

good luck, I understand why you played under a different sn, I don't think you should be punished or it should be wrong, unfortunately thats not what the sites are going to say, good luck with them.

SixPeppers

Aug 27, 08 13:54:46

We all mess up. Its cool man. I think half the people here have made new accounts on full tilt to get rakeback etc, and then now there bashing you for being disrespectful or cheating however they interpret it. Your still my friend.

Trevor R.

Nookx

Aug 27, 08 14:41:22

appreciate it brian. glad to see you man up about the situation. and good luck on your way back up from 100k.

DrSatisfaction

Aug 27, 08 15:45:33

Ty for comin forward it would of been easy to hide this and not come forward but you showed your real self by manning up and takin responsibilities 4 ur actions.

gl in teh future. Thx bigjimmylea1

bigjimmylea1

Aug 27, 08 15:58:01

you get HANDED a gig where you get 100% RB, and \$35 an hour on full tilt - and, become a representative of a company. You know how many people would kill for that deal? In return, you expressly breach your contract, misrepresent yourself, and make a mockery out of full tilt. I'm sure Howard would be proud.

JediPokerTrix

Aug 27, 08 17:51:34

I respect your decision to come clean without a doubt. Reading some of the posts on 2+2 I just shrugged it off because like others have said, playing at higher limits most players are competent enough to read a player and play accordingly. Thanks for bringing some class into this situation.

As far as the donations, I HIGHLY recommend a donation to the ASPCA foundation under the name of CardRunners.com, not just under Brian Townsend. That way, some better light comes to poker players as well as giving some (who almost demand it) some dignity back regarding the situation.

Good luck with your challenge!

cjmcculley

Aug 27, 08 17:56:30

u now can come and say u are very sorry blah blah blah but u fucked up really good as guy that is representing CR & FT..

underDgun

Aug 27, 08 19:12:00

Ive read it 9 times Brian and I still dont understand how donating to a charity fixes any of this.. You and anyone else who does this crap should be banned from all sites for life no exceptions..

rookie

Aug 27, 08 19:12:28

What suprises me is how everyone says "everyone else does it so ...." You broke the rules and you got caught. And your apology timing does seem a lot like damage control. You may be sincere but I'll always wonder.

drainer

Aug 27, 08 20:17:39

Why does timing matter so long as he is sincere? He's a human being just like all of us, micro limit to obnoxiously high limit players, he will make mistakes in life like all of us.

I look up to Brian, Taylor, Cole, and all the guys at C.R., but at the end of the day they're just a regular dude good at something. (no offense) And that means they will from time to time, fuck up.

cjmcculley

Aug 27, 08 20:32:40

ha ha, i had two accounts playing 20nl at titan.. am i in trouble!!

i cant see the big deal ethically but if a contract is broken then of course they will always be some reprecussions

jappie

Aug 27, 08 20:40:11

Thank you for finally holding yourself accountable and being honest with yourself and the community.

eagleeye148

Aug 27, 08 22:04:33

You admitting your mistakes is noble but after reading other pros doing this sort of thing and getting busted while probably feeling it was wrong a simple apology isn't going to clear your name in the poker world.

For me you are a solid player and I've learned a lot from you. I forgive you eventually but obviously some will hold this against you for a long time. You might walk into a casino or whatever and other pros perhaps even FTP red's will either think or say "Their is Brian Townsend the multi accounting cheat". It just really depends on how they feel as your certainly not the only one in "red" whose multi accounted.

A donation is great but obviously whether it was \$5K, \$25K, or \$250K that certainly won't buy respect back from some people in the poker world.

MoBeer

Aug 28, 08 02:23:18

Just cool of you to take responsibility before moving on. Keep on the good work here and at the tables.

iapetus28

Aug 28, 08 02:44:31

I dont understand the problem.
Many others have had a lot of accounts, e.g. LarsLuzak playing on +10 accounts, Antonius and Benyamine at least 3 etc.

Dont think you should feel bad about this.
No biggie :)

Quasar

Aug 28, 08 05:28:49

Glad you came clean about this.

What I don't understand are the following:

1 - To compensate those you played against woulden't it be better to refund any money the lost to you while you deceived them by playing on your other accounts? I don't see how donating money to charity compensated those you deceived. If you won 200K and donate 25K how does that help those you deceived?

2 - How come the poker sites didn't find this sooner? They must know from your IP address what you are doing right? Or do you use different ISP's and computers for each account?

Anyway, glad you came forward and I hope you feel better about everything.

All the best,

MeanGene

Aug 28, 08 06:17:36

Sigh.....this will be blown out of all proportion because you are well known. Not such a huge deal imo but it will be made out to be by the people who love to stir shit up.

ozzieowen

Aug 28, 08 06:55:02

just because other do it is does not excuse brians actions. It is CHEATING, his edge from doing this is possibly in the 10 of thousands of \$\$\$

I empathize with the reasons he did it but alot of people in this thread are incredibly naive.

Brian is getting away with this incredibly easy and i find it alarming he is passing this off as no big deal.

retus

Aug 28, 08 08:14:12

its more than likely a big deal to the high stakes HU players you played since a history and knowledge of who you are playing (when they are clueless) is such an advantage.
Pretty unfair but we all make mistakes.

It would have been better if you were like: "hey i lost a load of money and have to drop down and build back up, so im making a cardrunners video series about it."
-kinda like something andrew was suggesting.

Than would gain huge interest as every player has done something similar before. I guess you can still do it but it doesnt have the same quality to it. Gl and welcome back !! and nice gesture with the charity donation.

Recon20k

Aug 28, 08 09:08:37

We all humans and we all make mistakes.
Admiting and correcting mistakes is what separates losers from winners.
I wonder would you admit and correct those if you werent spootlighted and you wouldnt be tied to CR and FTP as a public face. Probably not, because many uses multiple accounts and dont even think about it.
One way or another - the action you took is brave and correct one as you set one of rare precedents and show example. I salute you for this.

violtu

Aug 28, 08 09:28:47

The thing about online poker is that there is usually so much that is unknown about a player. In Brian's case, everyone knows his style and he probably couldn't get good action. People say he deceived others, but isn't that what poker is? I don't see how it should be considered cheating at all. Unethical, possibly, but I can see both sides to that argument. He was definetly wrong in breaching his contract with FTP and he will pay the price for it. Unfortunately this can only have a negative impact on online poker being legalized in the US, because everyone is deciding all of a sudden this is a big deal and it will be seen as such by congress. Good luck to you Brian and I'm glad you came forward and addressed the situation, even if you didn't have a choice you were a class act about it.

bk13842

Aug 28, 08 09:42:51

"I used to think that playing 25/50, 50/100, and 100/200 was a failure because I wasn’t playing the largest limits."

This makes me LOL.

MeanGene

Aug 28, 08 10:14:23

Brian Townsend is, without a doubt, a class act. Still to this day he remains my favorite poker player.

GL Mr. Townsend.

dldwyer

Aug 28, 08 10:29:24

not a really big deal imo .. it's allowed at many sites

btw didn't patrick antonious at fulltilt: from luigi to wantagrind

and also david benyamine previously

rojo

Aug 28, 08 11:00:10

For those of us who grind it out in the poker world trying to move up using such tools as Cardrunners this truly dishonors us. This makes a mockery of cardrunners and those that believed the new breed of pro's truly earned their way to the top. Having multiple accounts increases the odds of collusion by 90%. You all built your rolls on PartyPoker, and now it has to be in question as to whether the rise to the top was legit. I now unquestionably have doubts.

This has nothing to do with the opinion of style or videos. This has to do with integrity. I employ over 20 journalists and our integrity is the MOST valuable asset that we have.

Only you know the real story and either way you have to deal with the truth on your own terms.

I only hope you have learned something positive.

Sincerely

BoxingCritic

BoxingCritic

Aug 28, 08 11:33:53

People seem to think what you did is not a big deal - and now you've made it seem even more acceptable. The next time someone gets caught they'll say "well aba did it too, its really not cheating its just a stupid rule." - Could you atleast clear up the fact that it is blatent cheating that should not be condoned and that you DID GAIN A HUGE ADVANTAGE against the people you played. People seem to think this is a gray area - So much for class of the industry. If you're one of the guys cheating up there then I'm sure everyone is - and that makes me not want to play highstakes online - so why the hell am i paying cardrunners then?

eddieob

Aug 28, 08 14:18:12

You've acted like a grown-up Brian and I'm sure you're making Mr. Maxwell proud. You came clean, accepted responsibility, and seem to have learned from this. You could have laid low but you confronted your mistake with courage and dignity. My respect to you and best wishes going forward.

IlliniBattle

Aug 28, 08 14:58:53

Somebody on Full Tilt right now is doggin you bad at the 200/400 NL table. Don't you some pull there still to ban his chat???

BCheezy

Aug 28, 08 15:02:41

FTP Advisor: Hit the jackpot by playing in "The Doubles" every
day on Full Tilt Poker.
CNDR (Observer): doing well?
CNDR (Observer): brian
YouAreSoBeat (Observer): brian, you still gonna play the PLO
\$25k?
IWNTCHUMLUVN: yes crushing the big game
CNDR (Observer): townsend?
YouAreSoBeat (Observer): yeah
adampottss (Observer): yeah the real brian is alrady registered
at the 25k plo
coldlogic (Observer): IT
coldlogic (Observer): IS
coldlogic (Observer): NOT
coldlogic (Observer): BRIAN
coldlogic (Observer): TOWNSEND
coldlogic (Observer): U
coldlogic (Observer): CLOWNS
UPSIDIITaGaIN (Observer): cheaters live o tv
FreddyJohnson (Observer): lol
IWNTCHUMLUVN: yeah this is my other account sir
coldlogic (Observer): no man
IWNTCHUMLUVN: sorry u think that
TLB HOSS (Observer): It s real, cash for free, no deposit 50\$
FREE + 100\$ BONUS NO DEPOSIT + RAKEBACK
ACCOUNT http://www.pokerstrategy.com/uG6WWV
YouAreSoBeat (Observer): this account is why he lost his "red
pro" status
coldlogic (Observer): aba_20
CNDR (Observer): I believe u
coldlogic (Observer): stellarnebula
YouAreSoBeat (Observer): i believe its him
coldlogic (Observer): cardrunners.com
coldlogic (Observer): then u r a moron
YouAreSoBeat (Observer): ok thanks
YouAreSoBeat (Observer): now ,fu.ck off
IWNTCHUMLUVN: thx steve
IWNTCHUMLUVN: i need all the friends i can get right now
IWNTCHUMLUVN: tough times
YouAreSoBeat (Observer): no1 gives a sh.it wht u think
CNDR (Observer): me too
CNDR (Observer): u mind giving lessons Brian
TLB HOSS (Observer): It s real, cash for free, no deposit 50\$
FREE + 100\$ BONUS NO DEPOSIT + RAKEBACK
ACCOUNT http://www.pokerstrategy.com/uG6WWV
austinloveskate (Observer): hmm so this is only account you
are using currently?
coldlogic (Observer): lol
coldlogic (Observer): these guys are like
adampottss (Observer): well brian where do u live then?
coldlogic (Observer): amazingly
IWNTCHUMLUVN: i have to charge but yes
coldlogic (Observer): retarded
CNDR (Observer): how much
IWNTCHUMLUVN: santa barbara why?
adampottss (Observer): lol
FreddyJohnson (Observer): i know cold, i know
adampottss (Observer): k not bad
FreddyJohnson (Observer): railtards ftw
coldlogic (Observer): least u know freddy
IWNTCHUMLUVN: i'm about to go train for my triathalon with
my friends stacy, julie, jenny, chloe and carly
FreddyJohnson (Observer): thats the 5th time u said that
sublime367 (Observer): isnt this hurting ur hourly mluvn
FreddyJohnson (Observer): its not funny anymore
YouAreSoBeat (Observer): hourly?
IWNTCHUMLUVN: sorry fred i am really heart set on training
FreddyJohnson (Observer): :D
Dealer: Hand #7838457892
Dealer: Hand #7838457892 has been canceled
shystymove (Observer): then leave
IWNTCHUMLUVN: have to do that to keep my seat sorry
System: Ring Game Happy Hour is running right now! Earn double Full Tilt Points for playing in any ring game!
shystymove (Observer): not if they arent playing u dont u
douche
IWNTCHUMLUVN: i'm used to the big game sorry shys
Dealer: Hand #7838470941
Dealer: Cbomb21 wins the pot (\$800)
Dealer: Hand #7838473943
IWNTCHUMLUVN: i play with sammy in bobby's room on
weekends
CNDR (Observer): who was ur biggest loss to in the Big Game
Brian
Dealer: Cbomb21 wins the pot (\$400)
Dealer: Hand #7838475687
IWNTCHUMLUVN: bobby himself...sick hand
Dealer: Cbomb21 wins the pot (\$800)
Dealer: Hand #7838478332
coldlogic (Observer): lol
Dealer: guaranteed376 wins the pot (\$800)
Dealer: Hand #7838480329
CNDR (Observer): how much
IWNTCHUMLUVN: i pushed into the nuts
coldlogic (Observer): look at these clowns
coldlogic (Observer): lol
FreddyJohnson (Observer): hey fake brian
IWNTCHUMLUVN: 1.6mil pot
Dealer: guaranteed376 wins the pot (\$2,399.50)
FreddyJohnson (Observer): i have a ??
Dealer: Hand #7838484099
shystymove (Observer): lol
Dealer: guaranteed376 wins the pot (\$800)
Dealer: Hand #7838485489
Dealer: Cbomb21 wins the pot (\$800)
Dealer: Hand #7838486964
IWNTCHUMLUVN: he had broadway
spiker zzz (Observer): whats your middle name??
IWNTCHUMLUVN: i thought he had a set and was waiting to
boat up
Dealer: guaranteed376 has 15 seconds left to act
spiker zzz (Observer): thought so
Dealer: guaranteed376 has requested TIME
coldlogic (Observer): u gotta give him a few min. to google it
spiker
uppercut_ya (Observer): get abit of action
spiker zzz (Observer): i know haha
Dealer: guaranteed376 wins the pot (\$11,399.50)
Dealer: Hand #7838496827
Dealer: guaranteed376 wins the pot (\$400)
Dealer: Hand #7838498108
shystymove (Observer): who is this person saying they are?
coldlogic (Observer): brian townsend
YouAreSoBeat (Observer): townsend
IWNTCHUMLUVN: i am doing curls right now sorry i cant
respond to everyone
YouAreSoBeat (Observer): i think it is
shystymove (Observer): lmao
shystymove (Observer): ya right
coldlogic (Observer): it isn't
spiker zzz (Observer): lol
coldlogic (Observer): end of story
coldlogic (Observer): if u believe that
knicoboker (Observer): lm,ao
Dealer: guaranteed376 has 15 seconds left to act
IWNTCHUMLUVN: getting ready for the big tri
coldlogic (Observer): unfortunately u r stupid
CNDR (Observer): This is so not Brian
Dealer: guaranteed376 shows Ten Eight high
Dealer: Cbomb21 shows two pair, Tens and Eights
Dealer: Cbomb21 wins the pot (\$5,599.50) with two pair, Tens
and Eights
spiker zzz (Observer): so whats your middle name??
Dealer: Hand #7838507083
Dealer: guaranteed376 has 15 seconds left to act
spiker zzz (Observer): mr. brian
IWNTCHUMLUVN: i got the 45s out...
shystymove (Observer): ur soooooo cooooooool
HumanHorrorFilm (Observer): brian townsend looks like a
1920s boxer
Choopie (Observer): hey CHUM, you are funny, keep doing
what you are doing !!
Big Perineum (Observer): this is 2 funny
Dealer: guaranteed376 shows [9d Ad]
Dealer: Cbomb21 shows [Ks Kh]
Dealer: guaranteed376 shows a pair of Nines
Dealer: Cbomb21 shows a pair of Kings
Dealer: Cbomb21 wins the pot (\$53,730.50) with a pair of Kings
Dealer: Hand #7838517736
CNDR (Observer): if it was Brian, he wouldn't be chicken to
play at this table
shystymove (Observer): oh oh
IWNTCHUMLUVN: remember friend strict bankroll management
CNDR (Observer): yup
uppercut_ya (Observer): ye
IWNTCHUMLUVN: have to grind to 400k before i move up from
25-50
CNDR (Observer): ur broke dude
Dealer: guaranteed376 has 15 seconds left to act
uppercut_ya (Observer): i have \$5.50 lol
Dealer: guaranteed376 shows a pair of Queens
Dealer: Cbomb21 shows two pair, Queens and Sixes
Dealer: Cbomb21 wins the pot (\$5,599.50) with two pair,
Queens and Sixes
Big Perineum (Observer): lol
Dealer: Hand #7838526354
Dealer: guaranteed376 has 15 seconds left to act
Dealer: guaranteed376 wins the pot (\$800)
Dealer: Hand #7838530539
IWNTCHUMLUVN (Observer): i'm planning on running it to
800k by the end of the year...wish me luck
System: The \$14,000 Guarantee (Rebuy) (\$30+\$3 NL Hold'em) will be starting in 4 minutes.
Dealer: guaranteed376 has 15 seconds left to act
Choopie (Observer): CHUM, how goes the triathlon
preparations ?
Tholdier737 (Observer): his name is CHUMP
Dealer: Cbomb21 shows a pair of Nines
Dealer: Cbomb21 wins the pot (\$7,199.50) with a pair of Nines
Dealer: Hand #7838539565
IWNTCHUMLUVN: its alot of stress
uppercut_ya (Observer): wen should i stop playin freeroll and
start playin real money??
Dealer: guaranteed376 wins the pot (\$400)
Dealer: Hand #7838540924
brunosballsack (Observer): never
uppercut_ya (Observer): i have \$5.50
Dealer: guaranteed376 wins the pot (\$800)
UPSIDIITaGaIN (Observer): no
Dealer: Hand #7838542651
Dealer: guaranteed376 wins the pot (\$400)
Dealer: Hand #7838544006
uppercut_ya (Observer): what do i need
IWNTCHUMLUVN: chloe is massaging me on a regular basis
though so its easing the pain
BorgTron (Observer): 6
Choopie (Observer): could you beat "maybe" already ?
UPSIDIITaGaIN (Observer): botoxballs
Dealer: guaranteed376 wins the pot (\$800)
uppercut_ya (Observer): guess it will take me for ever lol
Dealer: Hand #7838545996
Dealer: guaranteed376 wins the pot (\$400)
Dealer: Hand #7838547361
IWNTCHUMLUVN: please dont talk about maybe
tha playr1 (Observer): hey..... how long have you been playing
IWNTCHUMLUVN: she is near and dear to my heart
Dealer: Cbomb21 wins the pot (\$5,599.50)
Dealer: Hand #7838553579
Dealer: Cbomb21 wins the pot (\$800)
Dealer: Hand #7838555402
IWNTCHUMLUVN: she is so smart
shystymove (Observer): how much does chloe charge for a
rimmer
Choopie (Observer): be aware, she can run away, she don't like
losers who are playing 25/50 !!
YouAreSoBeat (Observer): who is maybe?
Dealer: guaranteed376 has 15 seconds left to act
IWNTCHUMLUVN: i could drop her off in tennessee and she
would find her way home...she loves her poppy
Dealer: guaranteed376 has 15 seconds left to act
Dealer: guaranteed376 shows a pair of Sevens
Dealer: Cbomb21 shows a pair of Sevens
Dealer: Cbomb21 wins the pot (\$13,599.50) with a pair of
Sevens
Dealer: Hand #7838571161
Dealer: guaranteed376 wins the pot (\$400)
YouAreSoBeat (Observer): who is maybe?
Dealer: Hand #7838572460
Dealer: guaranteed376 wins the pot (\$800)
Dealer: Hand #7838574435
knicoboker (Observer): google loose change
IWNTCHUMLUVN: my pup
YouAreSoBeat (Observer): oh
Zuigtablet (Observer): prove that you are BT
Dealer: guaranteed376 has 15 seconds left to act
Dealer: Cbomb21 wins the pot (\$5,899.50)
YouAreSoBeat (Observer): why google loose change
Dealer: Hand #7838583358
YouAreSoBeat (Observer): iv seen it before the movie
Dealer: guaranteed376 wins the pot (\$800)
Dealer: Hand #7838585180
Dealer: Cbomb21 wins the pot (\$800)
Dealer: Hand #7838587002
IWNTCHUMLUVN: guys thanks for the support
Zuigtablet (Observer): prove it
marky_31 (Observer): what the hell is he talking bout
IWNTCHUMLUVN: i have to go hit my pool up for a few laps
YouAreSoBeat (Observer): brian you got facebook or anything?
Zuigtablet (Observer): write something in your blog
DeezAzzStarr (Observer): .
Dealer: Cbomb21 shows a flush, Ace high
Dealer: Cbomb21 wins the pot (\$6,899.50) with a flush, Ace
high
Dealer: Hand #7838594168
Zuigtablet (Observer): railbirds are the best or smthing
Dealer: Cbomb21 wins the pot (\$800)
Dealer: Hand #7838595683
IWNTCHUMLUVN: u know how tris are...rigorous
Dealer: Cbomb21 wins the pot (\$400)
Dealer: Hand #7838597123
Dealer: guaranteed376 wins the pot (\$400)
Dealer: Hand #7838598271
YouAreSoBeat (Observer): do you have facebook brian?
IWNTCHUMLUVN: i cant give that out sorry steve
Dealer: Cbomb21 wins the pot (\$2,400)
Dealer: Hand #7838601532
Tholdier737 (Observer): its nto brian
Dealer: Cbomb21 wins the pot (\$800)
Dealer: Hand #7838603073
Tholdier737 (Observer): idiots
IWNTCHUMLUVN: too many people want ot be my friend
Dealer: guaranteed376 wins the pot (\$800)
Choopie (Observer): well, you are professional, you should do it
Dealer: Hand #7838604941
marky_31 (Observer): lol
marky_31 (Observer): probly
brunosballsack (Observer): evelyn ng is my friend
Choopie (Observer): dedicate yourself to it
Big Perineum (Observer): obv bc ur brian townsend
UPSIDIITaGaIN (Observer): cocaine sux your brain brian brain
brian brain
marky_31 (Observer): but they cant be called friend
Dealer: Cbomb21 shows two pair, Aces and Fours
Dealer: guaranteed376 shows two pair, Aces and Queens
Dealer: guaranteed376 wins the pot (\$5,999.50) with two pair,
Aces and Queens
Dealer: Hand #7838610645
Tholdier737 (Observer): HEY BRIAN WANNA GO RUN A FEW
LAPS DOG
IWNTCHUMLUVN: gl fellas grind smart
Lisa2006 (Observer): lol

BCheezy

Aug 28, 08 17:28:55

I am greatly dissapointed! You were the one I was looking up to, when starting in poker, and a great reason for joining CR!!
But, allright, everyone deserves a chance, and I suppose this is yours! -Beware thou, I dont think you can afford to dissapoint your fans further

Loosersnooze

Aug 28, 08 20:30:22

I applaud you for your honesty. This really isn't that big of a deal. It seems to be your entitled to some privacy when you play every once in a while if you want it. Your dedication to this site and your videos is a testament to your professionalism and character. I have lost no faith in you.

razormemphis

Aug 29, 08 03:56:21

wow, just wow.
Why do people get so bent out of shape about something like that?
I really don't see this as cheating. Sure you broke the site's rules and they will deal with it as they'll see fit, but its not like you did anything immoral and its not like by playing under a different name you got a bigger edge on your opponents.
People should really relax a little and don't take everything so damn serious.

D.Redstone

Aug 29, 08 04:12:12

wow, just wow.
Why do people get so bent out of shape about something like that?
I really don't see this as cheating. Sure you broke the site's rules and they will deal with it as they'll see fit, but its not like you did anything immoral and its not like by playing under a different name you got a bigger edge on your opponents.
People should really relax a little and don't take everything so damn serious.

D.Redstone

Aug 29, 08 05:32:58

Brian, you should donate the 25k to the Poker Players Alliance (PPA). It gives back to the community and it's for a good cause, IMO.

Cky23k

Aug 29, 08 18:27:52

I was just wondering since i played against u quite a bit what % of the 25k ur donating can i write off on my taxes.

Benba

Aug 29, 08 19:13:20

This does not seem like that big a deal to me.

You would hardly be the first person in the world to have had more than one account.

You have always come across as being a good guy in your videos.

gl.

disko

Aug 29, 08 20:26:40

I see CR's punishment was putting a pic of you (the CR Dashboard one) up which you're most clearly doing your best Down Syndrome impersonation. That's rough, fitting though.

You had a contractual obligation with both FTP and CR that most players/pros would kill for and broke both agreements. That was just plain stupid and selfish. I'm actually surprised FTP will be giving your red pro status back. I would have been expecting a 6 month COMPLETE ban, then back to sbrugby. But whatever, I'm glad they didn't cuz I'm still a supporter and wish ya the best. I've done dumber things and am just fortunate enough that no one really cares.

GroovyT

Aug 30, 08 06:07:02

I'm still a fan. I think you're cool, but....

Why would you give up \$35/hour and 100% rakeback? You're going to sacrifice this kind of \$\$ just so people won't talk about you playing 25/50? Since when is 25/50 the kiddie pool? You gave up earning money so some forum tards wouldn't lose respect for you? That doesn't make sense. Do you think any of your peers who actually play in the bigger games are going to make disparaging comments about you? Even if they did, why would you care? They don't pay your mortgage. You forgot that the reason you play poker is for \$\$\$\$\$\$\$\$\$.

On to your apology. Do you really think what you did was "wrong and inexcusable"? I mean , c'mon, its not like you did it for one night and then stopped doing it. You made a repeated conscious choice. Other's have done it, its not against the rules on other sites..

I think your videos and posts on here rule.

southerndog

Aug 30, 08 14:15:03

this isnt cheating to me brian you still the man dont even sweat it

Killa_Cam

Aug 30, 08 14:15:13

this isnt cheating to me brian you still the man dont even sweat it

Killa_Cam

Aug 30, 08 14:15:24

this isnt cheating to me brian you still the man dont even sweat it

Killa_Cam

Aug 30, 08 14:15:31

this isnt cheating to me brian you still the man dont even sweat it

Killa_Cam

Aug 31, 08 13:52:47

its hilarious to me that players dont think this is cheating. "you dont get any greater edge doing this" or "its against the sites rules but its not cheating" kind of things makes me laugh out loud. Clearly anything against any sites rules IS cheating, and clearly the use of previous reads on players while those players have no read/stats on you is a huge advantage.

I lost a lot of respect for you Brian. I like you, and looked up to you, but I'm not going to turn the other cheek when you or any other big name is caught cheating.

DaveBaker

Aug 31, 08 17:55:59

lol this whole thing was so overblown, so much that you had to write this whole thing and apologize for something that never hurt anyone.

Props on the charity donation though. well done.

Stake Monster

Aug 31, 08 23:17:01

Brian, can you make an article or blog about ego management? I think this falls within the same area as bankroll management. A lot of us can't quit when we are losing, and it is our ego that gets the better of us. This happened to you here, you didn't want to lose your status as a high limit player or looked down upon because you moved down in limits.

I didn't lose respect for you because what you did I don't think was that bad, but can you maybe educate people on how to let their ego not get in the way of their better judgment.

jmotrain

Aug 31, 08 23:17:27

Brian, can you make an article or blog about ego management? I think this falls within the same area as bankroll management. A lot of us can't quit when we are losing, and it is our ego that gets the better of us. This happened to you here, you didn't want to lose your status as a high limit player or looked down upon because you moved down in limits.

I didn't lose respect for you because what you did I don't think was that bad, but can you maybe educate people on how to let their ego not get in the way of their better judgment.

jmotrain

Sep 2, 08 07:23:41

<< I have never played poker for the money >>

You give me the impression of being delusional with a statement like this.

Steve565

Sep 2, 08 18:10:53

Dont worry about it. At least you held your haands up and admitted that you did wrong. Life goes on.
All The Best-Rage

sunburstf1

Sep 13, 08 13:26:13

Thanks Brian for clearing up your mistake and putting all of the rumors to rest. Everyone makes mistakes and I think it's a great step that at least you're showing some good faith by making that donation to charity. We all love you BT and you dropping down in limits only shows your true character and ability to do what's right and remain a power of example to us all and to reamin a beacon of hope that maybe we too can someday play in the big games. Don't ever let false pride get in the way or compromise your character, reputation, and more importantly, tarnish the feelings of your faithful students and followers. That, to me, is the most powerful lesson to be learned here and is something no amount of money could ever buy. Loyalty and integrity. Thanks again BT! Hang in there! You should know that we don't care what stakes you're playing, as long as we can count on you. Peace and love bro! DMIP aka Skillish

DealMeInPlz

Sep 13, 08 13:30:34

Thanks Brian for clearing up your mistake and putting all of the rumors to rest. Everyone makes mistakes and I think it's a great step that at least you're showing some good faith by making that donation to charity. We all love you BT and you dropping down in limits only shows your true character and ability to do what's right and remain a power of example to us all and to reamin a beacon of hope that maybe we too can someday play in the big games. Don't ever let false pride get in the way or compromise your character, reputation, and more importantly, tarnish the feelings of your faithful students and followers. That, to me, is the most powerful lesson to be learned here and is something no amount of money could ever buy. Loyalty and integrity. Thanks again BT! Hang in there! You should know that we don't care what stakes you're playing, as long as we can count on you. Peace and love bro! DMIP aka Skillish

DealMeInPlz