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December 22, 2008

I have almost officially survived a hellish week.  If I can make it through the 0 degree weather tonight at the Bears Packers football game then I will have made it through my own personal hell that was this past week.

Things that sucked about this week:
-The flu aka the sweat.

-Lost my keys while digging out my car from under 8 inches of snow.  Ironically, I only shoveled that day to test how I was doing after resting in bed for 3 days.  I thought it was the "smart" thing to do so that my car didn't pile up too much snow, even though my car is dead and needs to be towed to the dealership.  

-Computer broke.  I ordered a new one that should be shipped to my parents house for christmas.  merry christmas to me.  i'm typing this on a keyboard that has no spacebar key, just the button that the real spacebar should mash down to type spaces.  if that doesn't make sense, rip out your space bar and you'll know what i'm talking about.

-Fell behind on lots of work.  I probably won't get to totally kick back and do nothing from tomorrow until NYE like I wanted to.  Also, I'm going to have to miss the PCA to go to Europe for some CardRunners stuff.  That's not really a good or bad thing, I was hoping to go to the PCA but Europe should be fun too.  I'll be in London for sure so I'll probably try to arrange a CR gathering if possible!

-worst shape of my life.  pretty self explainatory, but sitting on the couch for a week, no working out, and generally mediocre eating habits have put me north of 200 lbs for the first time ever.  i will be back down at or below 190 by spring time.  no doubt about that.

That's enough emo'ing.  We had our Christmas party the other night.  It was pretty awesome.  I think everyone had a fun time.  I'll save the details for a blog post and pictures from the party later.

What I did want to talk about are more: "signs the recession is upon us" stuff.  I really enjoy taking seemingly everyday observations and trying to think a little bit more deeply about them.  Take spam for example.  We all get spam, in fact something like 99% of all email sent is spam (seriously, the Gmail Blog once had a post about this -- it was pretty fascinating to see how much spam goes through their system, and more importantly, how much of it google is able to block).  Spam is annoying and useless, but then there is a different class of promotional emails that aren't completely unsolicited, but generally aren't all that desireable to open each morning.

For exmaple, you buy a rug at Pottery Barn and you have to give them your email address in order to schedule a delivery.  Now for the rest of your life you hear about anything and everything that's going on at the Pottery Barn; not exactly my idea of a good time.  The problem is that you've basically signed yourself up for this, and the other problem is that you never know when they might actually send you an email that you might be interested in.

These are the types of emails I'm getting more of these days.  Nordstrom, Barney's, Tribeca Grand, anything/everything Vegas, lot's of mid to high end companies are absolutely spamming the hell out of me.  WIth discounts, too.  Hotel rooms that are 40% off, free shipping on just about anything online, even discounts on designer brands.  It's just interesting for me to see these companies change they way they are doing business in these tough times.  

Another interesting thing I've noticed is the excess availability of New Years Eve options.  Last year it was insane, every place we tried going to was sold out at least a month in advance.  My friends were paying $100-$150 a head just to go to a bar down the street that they could get $4 drafts from any other night.  Now, I'm getting emails daily from bars and clubs, ten days before NYE, offering discounted packages for parties on NYE.

Vegas should probably be seperated into its own category.  I would say I get an email from a Las Vegas hotel or casino at least 4 times per week.  Usually it's just a low rate (100-150/night for a top tier hotel room), but lately its getting even better.  I got a phone call a week ago offering me free air fare for 2, 3 nights of free hotel, and gambling money if I was willing to go to Tunica, Mississippi for 3 nights mid week.  Out of principle I almost took it.  Even the Wynn sent out an email last week offering 3 free nights at their hotel during some off peak times.  I had some friends who got this email as well, and none of us could actually get the promotion to work, so maybe they were just testing to see if people were interested in it or something.  Steve, if you're reading this, I'll gladly stay at your hotel for free, so hook a brother up and I'll come out to the Wynn whenever you want me.

To continue on the Vegas topic, I am going on record saying I think Las Vegas is going to look substantially different this time in 5 years.  By different I mean there are going to be massive bankruptcies, failures, whatever you want to call it during this time span.  The biggest problem I see is not that the town is overbuilt (which it is, very overbuilt), it's that they have overbuilt the Strip and closely surrounding areas with high-end stuff that so few can afford.  As far as I can tell, the construction that remains in LV is mostly ultra-high end stuff, such as City Center and one other Condo building that I don't know the name of (it's the one that has some Vegas people up in arms because its going to block the Strip view of another pricey condo bulding out there, for those of you that know the area).

The hotels themselves have all classed up over the past few years.  The Hard Rock is becoming a top tier destination.  A lot of the dumpy places are now nice to very nice.  The question I keep asking myself is: "who are all the people that can afford this stuff?"  Another problem that is almost as big, that I don't think many of these developers bothered to consider, is that the global landscape for gambling is undergoing a massive change.  First, Las Vegas isn't the only game in town anymore.  There are riverboats all over the place now.  Atlantic City now has at least one very nice property in the Borgata.  Chicago now has the Horseshoe.  Globally, Macau is becoming a gambling hotbed for the Asian gamblers.  Finally, anyone not living in a facist country that also has an internet connection can gamble online.  I suspect this will have a larger impact than most think on Vegas' revenues over the next year or so.  Think about it, in tough economic times, the guy who likes to go to Vegas once a year to blow through a couple thousands bucks might instead decide to deposit $500 online.  This way he can save himself the travel expense, and also can find limits as low as he wants to gamble.  You can also make money last a lot longer online due to being able to get deposit bonuses, rakeback, and the ability to play for only a few minutes a day if you so desire.

All of these factors adds up to tough times for Las Vegas in the coming years.  I don't know what is going to happen out there, but my money is on some large, fundamental changes in the landscape of the town or at least in the way they do business.  I went out there a few months ago to look into buying a condo for our company and walked away thinking we are at least 6-12 months away from when I should even be thinking about that.  I hope to find some opportunities to make money off of this thesis, but sadly, I have none at this point.  If anyone has any of those, or thoughts on this subject in general, feel free to leave a comment or send me a message.  Also, if you have any interesting observations about the current economic crisis, feel free to post them here!

Take it easy, go bears!

 

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holidaysLas Vegas

Dec 22, 08 12:28:08

Was just in Vegas this weekend and had the same convo with a cab driver. It's pretty sad to see. PH is building a high rise condo. Boyd Ent halted Eschelon. TI was sold. City Center is going to fail. The list goes on and on...

Spudt24





Dec 22, 08 12:51:24

tldr

David B





Dec 22, 08 12:58:43

make money of your thesis =
short xxx shares of MGM US
wait
profit

Worrrrst





Dec 22, 08 14:38:00

Just got back from Vegas, it was kind of dead. I totally agree on holding off on the condos. I was sort of asking around while I was there, and I think you are dead on with your assessment that wait 6-12 months before even looking. I live in a very similar real estate market to Las Vegas (Sacramento, CA). We both reaped the huge benefits of the bubble and subsequently, both fell harder than almost any part of the nation. My gut tells me that we won't see 2003/2004 prices (real, adjusted for inflation) for a decade or more, and that any time between 1 to 5 years from now is going to be the ultimate time to buy property. Don't mistake that for the ultimate time to invest in property. People often ignore that real estate historically has stayed on par with CPI and has never really been a solid investment. Buy property because it has utility or it immediately produces income, don't buy at a loss speculating on the appreciation gains!

LJJones





Dec 22, 08 15:33:31

im still wondering why someone in a non extradition country hasnt built a killer online casino

the man





Dec 22, 08 16:30:18

LJJones, saying that Vegas is dead in December is like saying it's cold in Chicago in December. It's just the nature of the city, it's always slow there until after Xmas.

Most of the casinos are already near bankruptcy thanks to their terrible mismanage of their debts. (Leverage up because revenues never go down!)

Vegas will still pack it in week to week next year, you'll just see significantly cheaper room rates. There was an article this morning talking about how Wynn got swamped with room reservations right after they cut room rates by 30%.

Also remember with the Fed destroying our dollar, Vegas becomes cheaper and more affordable for Euros and Asians.

SenatorKevin





Dec 22, 08 16:31:42

Forgot my other comment. So you've seen a decrease in those NYE parties in Chicago? I've seen a ton of fliers for the bars and clubs and literally laughed at the dollar amounts they were asking for.

SenatorKevin





Dec 22, 08 17:41:43

Great points about the current Vegas trends. Its amazing that in the next few years, there are no hotels or casinos being built that target middle income players. Additionally, Vegas doesn't appear to be giving much back to the gamblers. Guys that play 25 or 50 bucks a hand of blackjack are lucky if they get a comped buffet.

Vegas is a town of cycles, and I predict in 5 years you will see many hotels that take the roll of Circus Circus in the 80s and 90s of providing cheap entertainment and rooms, as opposed to competing for the same customers as the Wynn, Venetian, and Bellagio.

Balbomb





Dec 22, 08 17:52:13

A+ thought provoking entry

Schneids





Dec 22, 08 18:31:07

Legitimate marketing emails require an unsubscribe link in the email. The companies are required by law to remove your email from their database within 10 days. If they don't they can be held liable upwards of \$10k+ and subject to very strict monitoring for several years by the FTC. This is part of the CANSPAM act. If you don't want the emails look for the unsubscribe link. If they don't have an unsubscribe link report them to the FTC

BestPlayerEvar





Dec 22, 08 18:44:20

you guys are so bearish it's unreal. ben bernanke unleashed the printing presses last week, lowered rates to 4 1/2%. in my opinion you're behind the trend, and i think we've seen the bottom in the stock market, and will see the bottom in the housing market come this summer. i don't disagree with you about vegas though, which seems to be mostly what you were talking about. vegas probably is in trouble since a lot of the baby boomers lost a large percentage of their 401k money during the financial crisis. but geez, stop with the doom and gloom please.

thehenge





Dec 22, 08 19:10:41

Liked this blog a lot.

Merry christmas from Denmark.

iPodu





Dec 22, 08 19:10:55

Excellent observations, I would love to talk econ with you some time. Even if Vegas see's multiple failures, they will adapt, moving to what the consumers demand. I'm thinking they got a bunch of info before the recession started, saying more middle americans will prefer higher end stuff. Now with changing times they are already pot committed in alot of ways and will have to find a way to adapt to the new needs while still not totally killing themselves with all the buried costs already accumulated.

SixPeppers





Dec 22, 08 20:59:59

Everyone is so bearish with the dollar due to the new printing press we have established. Reality is that all our competitors will have to do what we have done, cutting rates, stimulous packages etc., We have simply acted first. I am not a greenback bull, but i'm not a bear either. According to Warren Buffet, an optimal play is to be greedy when others are scared and be scared when others are greedy. I am really bullish with Steve Wynn's companies(WYNN). Not only will he survive this downturn, he will thrive as worldwide growth regains its strength in the upcoming years.

alewis8





Dec 22, 08 23:12:05

Hyperinflation On The Way

i think a lot of people are confusing the ticks and symbols for the actual real life economy DESPITE the current recession (yeah i said it; recession) and it's previous inevitability.

Interesting movies to check out would be "life + debt" and "confessions of an economic hitman" In reverse order (also both instant on netflix).

Ultimately I feel Vegas will have to slow it's growth but I don't sense collapse; as SixPeppers pointed out their industry's versatile and don't forget their demographic/market is global.

LesW





Dec 23, 08 00:46:59

Its 1:44 am here..at 2:05 im expecting to see u and the boyzzzzz on PAD...

in case ur not on in a few minutes...when is your show goin to air?

Thanks

Peace

streetfamep





Dec 23, 08 07:49:43

This is going to take a while to absorb. I'm going to go make some coffee...

percolating is such a pleasant process, when I can find the time to enjoy it





Dec 23, 08 17:14:07

wow, that is one bold statement, taylor.

babooyah





Dec 24, 08 02:54:34

Honest response from someone that obv doesn't fully understand your post.

Remember that your humility is what keeps you interesting. Don't try to market your realizations, unless you have studied the realms you are discussing to the umpteenth degree. Seriously.

Do your research. If you still feel the same way about yourself as you seem to in this post... do more research.

This is my firm belief from studying economics to exhaustion... bullshit exhausts me, and so do over-simplified models. Still, they serve a purpose.

EDIT: Compare bullshit to bearshit... when thinking about the stock market and how you are trying to exploit a natural cycle within any system that is strong enough to endeavor for balance. Adapt or perish.

Ever heard of the 90/10 rule? Shut up for about 8 hrs (downtime), and read something that you find insightful. Or listen to music. This is coming from my heart man... I'm trying to help you understand how your ideas don't filter through simple minds easily... and how simple will destroy complicated, over time.

To copy an Asian man that says it better than I will ever be able to (in my own words):

Remember the basics - aim for humility. Everything else is just your own fucked up understanding of the world.

Just one more thing: true humility creates humour, not hubris.





Dec 24, 08 20:57:26

I'd like to see economic tax incentives for having children taken away!

JahDoos





Jan 12, 09 16:55:24

i think i have an idea of how to profit. email me if youre interested in hearing more.

the man





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January 23, 2009

Hey Card Runner’s People! I have been so busy in the last month that I haven’t been able to blog or even play much poker to blog about!

I went home for Christmas for two weeks and then immediately went to the Bahamas for the PokerStars Caribbean Adventure. It was my first time out of the country! Well… wait. I take that back. When I was 19, I went to Windsor Canada with my BFF (best friend for life )…

Highlights of that trip: winning a pillow fighting contest, roaming the streets at 5 a.m. looking for salt to put on my leftover steak, and clearing the dancefloor to do a drunken rendition of a Destiny’s Child dance… good times

Ok so the Bahamas trip was not as OC (outta control) as Windsor, but it was still super fun. I got to hang out a little, which was cool. I even caught up with CardRunner’s own Brian Townsend and David Benefield—two of the nicest people you could ever meet. I promise I’m not just saying that either! If didn’t think so highly of them, I would just not say anything, ya know? David even invited a few of us to go scuba diving, but it didn’t work out.

I also met another CardRunner’s guy, but I can’t remember his name. I’m sooo sorry! If you are reading this, please say hi!

--- sidenote- Conversation with a Bahamian worker

    Worker: “Excuse me miss, are you a model?”
    Me: (blushing) “Aww, not even close, but thank you! You probably say that to all the girls don’t you?”
    Workers: “I sure do.”
    Me: (not blushing anymore)

Then, once I got  back from the Bahamas, I had to move. Ugh, I HATE MOVING. This time it was worth it though. I just moved into Sky, a high rise on the Strip. So far, so good. It’s got a pretty sick view, and really nice amenities. Since the economy is so bad, even someone like me can afford rent in this place!! Check it out! That is the view from my balcony!

Now that I’m all moved in, I’m ready to get back in the saddle. It’s been a long time coming, but I’m going to move to play $2-$5 almost exclusively. There isn’t much adjusting from $1-$2 and the players aren’t very different. I've just been a "girl" about moving up, even though many of the games I was playing in played really big anyway, much like a $5-$10. This is my cash game graph from 2008 during which I played almost all $1-$2.







Well I hope everyone had a wonderful holiday! Good luck in 2009. I’ve made some 2009 goals for myself, how about you guys?


Here are a few of mine:

-Make $25K in cash games ($12K this year and I’ve upped my stakes)

-Finish first in my age bracket in the Aflac Irongirl Triathlon

-Run a marathon (Chicago most likely)

-Finish my book (I’ve been “writing” one for more than a year now)

I’m outta here! Next time I’ll have some poker updates!

Guess16

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Jan 23, 09 20:53:13

gl with the goals of 25K but i think the goal is way to easy for you to reach.
with ur stats above ur set to hit 35K for the year.
assuming you will improve i would set the bar at 50K
GL ray

dymakel





Jan 23, 09 20:53:47

shit sorry clicked it 4 times before the screen changed

dymakel





Jan 24, 09 01:12:25

hey, yea i'm lookin at a place at the trump tower thats cheap as hell too! i know for a fact they didnt think theyd be renting anything in there out for like under 2k a month. lol and hey whats that program u use to keep track of live stats?

xxcraigmacxx





Jan 25, 09 02:30:26

Thanks, dymakel. I'll definitely reconsider my goals. and to craigmac, I use Card Player's Poker Analyst :). Thanks for the comments guys!

guess16





Jan 28, 09 21:51:23

i made the same amount in 08, lol so my goal is to keep in stride where ever you are on your goal so i know if im slacking.

u have a headstart tho, i changed my game to learning LHE. GL

DecoyNum10





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July 07, 2009

Hello.  I'll just get right to the stuff. I feel like I'm due for some really good luck.  I've just had some God awful luck in all walks of life in 2009.  In general I hate dwelling on and even talking about bad stuff, so I'll leave it at that, but you heard it here first, I'm due for something good.  As weird as it sounds, I can feel it.  I doubt it will be something as awesome as shipping the Main Event or anything like that, I just expect some good things to happen to me soon.  Now, all in all, I can't complain that much because overall things are good, I've just had a lot of random bad luck, trust me on that.  It continued the other day when I got a voicemail on July 5th.  "Taylor, this is XYZ, I'm just calling you back in regards to you hitting my car on XYZ street."  I must have listened to the message 10 times because I couldn't possibly understand where this was coming from.  It was an 847 area code, which is the northern suburbs of Chicago where I grew up and often drive through.  The catch is that I've been in Las Vegas for five weeks and haven't driven my car since then.  I was also in Arizona, on Lake Havasu, on a boat, during the 4th of July when this happened.
 
I called the guy back and told him that I was Taylor and told him that this is going to sound bizarre but I had no idea what he was talking about.  I told him how I've been in Vegas for a month and that I certainly didn't hit his car and leave my contact info on it.  He said "well, whomever did it talked to my neighbors about it, why would they do that and then leave contact information that's not theirs?"  I said hat they probably didn't want to hit and run because people saw it, but didn't have insurance or something so they just threw down a fake number.  I asked him if the guy wrote down my name and info or just my number, and he told me that it was just a phone number.  I told him that there's no way anyone would just leave a number and not any other information.

Anyway, I think the guy kinda believes me but he called me back today and said he talked to his neighbors and they didn't really remember what the guy looked like but he was with a girl.  He called me back on a blocked number too, so I don't know what that means, maybe he doesn't want me to have his information?  At any rate, we'll see if I hear back from him again, but I'm expecting to have to deal with this over the next few days.  Guy, if you've googled my name and are reading this blog, I didn't do it!!!
 
My condo is coming along too.  I've got a tenant in there and due to an unfortunate accident the condo got completely ruined and there was over 100k worth of damage.  The lawyers/insurance companies are fighting this out but regardless of how it turns out, it's been a good 40 hours of hassle and a fair bit of expense hiring someone to manage the restoration project.  Frustrating.
 
I made it to day two of the main event. My stack is mediocre, 36,600, probably a few thousand below average for Day 1A.  I really don't think I could have played much better on Day 1.  My table draw was awful.  I had CR Pro Nutedawg directly to my left, another euro who told me he was a CR member, and a few online pros I didn't know that were solid players.  There was one nit at the table that was a really fun guy.  There was also another mediocre player who had position on me  Everyone else was either very good or at least competent.  Not what dreams are made of, boys and girls.
 
I'm not going to talk too much strategy in this blog because I'm still in the tournament and I'm sure some people I will play will read this.  What I will say is that I think most online cash game players play horribly in these tournaments.  Everyone bemoans their bad luck when a donk makes a bad call or play and sucks out or they push a small edge and can't win a race in a "standard" situation.  I think that with so much dead money in these fields you have to really change the way you play.  You can't push small edges like you do in cash games, you have to be looking to pot control like crazy and basically let the dead money give you their money as opposed to trying to take it from whomever you can.  I've observed the good online MTT players who have played at my tables and have learned a lot.  I really wish I knew what I know now a few years ago because I'd probably have a lot more money than I do.
 
For example, I actually folded bottom set face up in level 3.  I'm not going to type out the whole hand but I think the table was sort of like "whaa" when it happened, but the guy told me after Day 1 that he had top set and it was an amazing fold.  yay.  I'd be out if had called it off.  Believe me, I'm hardly ever folding a set in the Main Event, but I think it was correct in this situation.  I doubt I could fold something like that from here on out, as I'll likely have something like 50-80bb's tops as opposed to 160 bb's in that hand.

I see kids laughing over and over talking about how bad these fields are but when I see some of them at my table or hear about hands they are just throwing their money away.  It's annoying as hell because some of these online players, particularly the cash game players, come out here thinking they are God's gift to poker and that it's just so funny how bad everyone else is at poker.  Honestly, who the hell do you think you are?  You're good at a game and if you had any sense you would shut the hell up about it so as to not kill your action and to also keep the fish from realizing they are making mistakes.  It's just mind boggling how delusional some internet poker players are, particularly when online cash game players take to the live MTT fields.  Keep in mind this observation is coming from someone who has little to no tournament success to speak of, but I wouldn't say it if I wasn't quite sure it was true.  It's just annoying to see so many people just blatantly disrespecting their opponents and in many ways the game itself.
 
Sorry for that semi-rant, I think I'm just tired of hearing how everyone thinks everyone else is so bad at poker.  Yeah, there's a lot of dead money in the games, but the more people constantly point it out in blogs, forum posts, public conversations, the more the bad players will learn and get better.  I realize everyone has an ego, but some people need to seriously get it in check at some point in their lives because honestly they just aren't as sweet as they think they are.
 
After Day 1 I drove to Lake Havasu with my roommate's gf and two of her friends that are in town.  It sort of reminded me of high school when I hung out a lot more frequently with groups of girls, it was a fun little drive.  Our boat was 85 feet long and had five or six bedrooms.  It pretty comfortably slept close to 15-20 people, which was nice.  We arrived at about 230 AM and stayed up drinking until about 5am.  This sucked because we had to get up at 6am to drive the boat out to the area we would eventually "park" at for the rest of the day.  Apparently it isn't easy to drive an 85 foot boat because it took us a good six hours to find a good place to stay for the day.  I'm not kidding, I felt really bad for the guys that had to drive it.

We eventually parked and had a really great day.  Fishing, jumping of the top of the boat into the lake, swimming, drinking, grilling, watching fireworks, there was a little bit of everything.  It was an all-American day that was capped off with an hour or two at a beachside bar.  Lake Havasu is a pretty crazy place.  We weren't able to get a spot in the "party" cove where apparently girls get naked all the time and there is tons of spring-breakesque debauchery, but even just sitting at the beachside bar we looked into some boats where there were topless women hanging out with dudes on the boat.  It was crazy because we were no more than 20 feet away from them and they were still topless and also their young children were on the boat too.  I don't know what to think about that.
 
We drove home during the afternoon and I came home and slept all day.  At 8 o'clock Swinney, Andrew, and I headed down to the Strip to go to the CardRunners party at Margaritaville.  We had open bar and free gear for about 200 CR members, which was a pretty damn good time if I do say so myself.  I didn't get a chance to talk to everyone, but I did get to meet a lot of members.  It's always refreshing to get to meet CR members in person.  I must have been told 25 times last night that my videos have improved people's games a ton and they owe much of their success to CardRunners.  There was even a couple who drove out from California just to hang out at the CR party, I thought that was sweet. 
 
Finally, I'm encouraged again to keep blogging because a lot of people told me I need to get back into the swing of it because they enjoy reading my emo blogs.  In short, I think it's just nice to actually meet the real live people that make the CR community the CR community.  I constantly read a lot of feedback on my company, good, bad, and ugly, and getting to meet so many CR supporters was just an awesome feeling.  I encourage anyone reading this to PM me with suggestions, comments, or anything else in general about CR, I really do take every suggestion I hear into consideration.
 
Alrighty, wish me luck, I hope I can make a deep run but if not, I'm looking forward to getting back to Chicago for a few months. My next poker trip will likely be for WSOPE or the Poker Million in October, also in London.

Taylor

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wsopLas Vegas

Jul 7, 09 05:34:57

Tay,
Just wanted to say that I really enjoyed this blog and please keep em coming. I've been to Havasu twice as well and had a blast but we were tied up in the "party cove", there is also a cool sandbar kinda on the other side of the lake where you can park and just walk around in ankle/mid-shin level water.
-Hokulea

P.S. I also do hate the berating players... just be humble, have fun with people and win their money. Ivey is the most popular/best player in poker and you don't hear him talking shit or bragging or anything else of that manner. Hopefully one day these kids learn.

Hokulea





Jul 7, 09 06:05:39

i couldnt agree more about not talking about anything poker related / strategy because id prefer fish dont get better, but you saying it REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS. you are the person in the world to cause the most fish to get better in such a short period of time.

"if you had any sense you would shut the hell up about it so as to not kill your action and to also keep the fish from realizing they are making mistakes. It's just mind boggling how delusional some internet poker players are"

i bet ud like to offer a CR subscription to the fish instead


wow this blog tilts me so hard

KSmith2K7





Jul 7, 09 06:12:04

what about the CR logos all around the WSOP, that might get fish wanting to get better? no?

YOU ARE RIGHT, ONLINE POKER PLAYERS ARE FING IDIOTS, and by online poker players i mean you. wow insane how stupid and hyprocirtical you are fhgjfhdgfdjghlkfdhgfdlkgf... /life tilt

KSmith2K7





Jul 7, 09 09:17:07

KSmith, there is a difference between berating players, and creating a company that makes money off teaching. If fish are getting free advice at the tables then we all lose, duh!

vipex





Jul 7, 09 10:02:51

good stuff taylor best of luck in the main event champ

MagicPie85





Jul 7, 09 10:19:56

I agreee. This guy is helping a lot of players get batter and taking money out of already good players pockets. Quit complaining and look in the mirror.

peidude69





Jul 7, 09 10:20:04

I agreee. This guy is helping a lot of players get batter and taking money out of already good players pockets. Quit complaining and look in the mirror.

peidude69





Jul 7, 09 10:34:11

good blog entry sir

really wish i was out in vegas atm

havasu sounds great to my man, just tops.

killerbee112





Jul 7, 09 11:58:34

It was cool meeting all u guys and the CR party was a blast!!!

cpar1





Jul 7, 09 11:59:51

just kinda weirid hearing members of this training site rant when they probably sucked before they joined. loll makes no sense.

gambler2k4





Jul 7, 09 15:00:41

Great Post Taylor. I like your attitude and willingness to listen to all the critics.

lol, to the people who think just watching CR Videos will make you a winning poker player. Even if you get a CR subscription and watch videos. You still gotta understand and apply it at the tables. Tilt, bankroll management, etc Poker is a sick game that is tough to beat.

AppleSeed





Jul 7, 09 16:34:04

KSmith
Not to get in some kind of debate on some other dude's blog but generally part of what makes fish fish is that they arent gonna spend time and \$ educating themselves on the game. So in that sense, what your saying is kinna off the mark.

Also a little wierd to insult the guy whose site youre a member of and are (hopefully) benefiting from. But youre putting \$ in his pocket anyway so maybe he doesnt mind.

Dixon Yass





Jul 7, 09 18:30:22

good blog

SomeLoudThunder





Jul 7, 09 18:59:20

gl!

LesW





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